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They really need to correct that. I understand jack shit. Is openclaw banned under these terms? Or just abuse where I build a business on top of that? And why does it matter anyway? I have my token restrictions ... So let me do what I want.

What on earth? We could just let the processes play catch up instead of bringing medival (like literally) ideas back to life. Guilds are the worst fucking thing. We still have those in Germany and I despise it so much. Fucking IHK and others where I have to be a member, I can't even decide for myself. Parasites they are.

Did you read the article? The term "guild" was used, but what's being suggested sounded more to me like some kind of reputation management system. Something like the karma system here at HN.

Yes.

> Would a guild system be perfect? Obviously not. Would it create new forms of exclusion? Probably. Would medieval Florentine weavers recognize the problem we're dealing with? I suspect they'd find it eerily familiar.

Still not a fan. If the author would've expanded a bit more on verification and not only trust I'd be more open. But this is just gate keeping and the opposite of open.


As another compulsory member, I can understand the rage. Parasites indeed.

Thank you! I don't get how so many people want to see dark patterns everywhere. All arguments miss the big counterargument: in a world where you have competitors, even free ones, you can't fuck around. You need to get it working. it's not a slot machine for me. How on earth are people using it? And if it would be I'd take my money elsewhere (kimi for example, openrouter or whatever). It needs to do my work as correct as possible. That's the business they are in. Tech folks talking about economics is so cringe. It's always just "corporations bad". As if they exist in a vacuum.

Both can be true: people who deliver products based on vision and all are very much needed and cracked devs who excel in technical details as well. Peter and you are of these respective groups then.

This is the lifecycle of SaaS tho. It opens up opportunities for competitors to launch and build something more nieche, which is good for customers. And then it repeats

Yeah, it repeats until fascism shows up and decides the billionaire class and nepo babies is all "we" need.

Outlets could be a key here.

AI is not killing SaaS, there is no real proof for that. No one wants to host, maintain, and be liable for shit other people can do better for less money. You share R&D costs with other customers. It's more efficient.

This take is so unimaginably stupid and far from the truth it makes me angry. You have network effects, liability, maintenance, mental/managerial complexity, integrations and on and on the list goes. I would be weary of anyone proposing an issue and selling you the solution right with it.

You can also cook your own food. But do you? Do you break your own bread? Do you make your own pasta? No you don't. You pay for an outcome. SaaS is the same. Just because you can do it yourself doesn't mean you should. The code is the smallest part of a SaaS. This will be the same thing like "let's move devs to a cheaper country". Look how that turned out.


> No one wants to host, maintain, and be liable for shit other people can do better for less money.

I think the point is that AI will be able to do this better and cheaper than the SaaS companies.


You missed my point. Upfront cost is not the only cost in business. And I still stand by it that shared infrastructure costs for example are way more efficient than everyone doing a half-arsed version of whatever it is.

I agree with you in the short term but what makes you think companies will even be asking AI to write bespoke software or setup any kind of infrastructure in the long term? Theoretically AI would handle all of this for you with much greater fidelity and accuracy than any human could manage. Any business processes would be handled by the AI which already has all of your corporate data. Why would I need a SaaS service when I could have the AI do the task or generate the answer? Why would I send data to a SaaS when I can just give it to the AI? Granted I don't believe we are anywhere close to such a scenario, but it seems to be the trajectory that we are on.

You sound angry, why?

No sound was emitted from his typed comment

Because these stupid takes are everywhere. It's engagement bait and causes uncertainty with a lot of folks. My LinkedIn is full of that. Just shows me how many people aren't able to think critically and for themselves, blows my mind. And I'm connected to a lot of other CTOs and CxOs ... I think we can do better!

Breaking infinite scrolling on these apps is one good step, but for me it's something else that would be more important.

I'm recovering from a surgery and can't do much besides existing. So I'd like to scroll to keep me occupied and numb the pain in my face. But instagram tries to shove content down my throat that I don't want to see. It's always only a matter of time until I see THOT/incel content. No matter how often I click "not interested", they try again and again. If it's not playing genders out against each other, it's politics. It's brain rot. I don't wanna see that. I have interests and they know what they are. But no, they show me this garbage. The algorithms need to be the second thing we need to regulate imho


It is not. https://tradingeconomics.com/country-list/private-debt-to-gd...

The widespread use with "buy now pay later" also counters your wildly baseless claim. Klarna, PayPal 30 days etc.


Your link counts all types of debt including mortgages which is the reason why Luxembourg comes up first.

The argument was, at least how I read it, that europe doesn't rely on credit that much. My argument is: we do. We just don't have 20 credit cards at a 45k debt level. But we have enough other stuff.

Sure, but mortgages are backed by an asset whereas credit card debt isn't.

Just because you have to use Klarna doesn't mean you pay later as you can just select your debit card or even bank account directly.

... I know. But what do you think I meant when I said "Klarna" in the context of this discussion?

I built https://bookcall.io. out of the annoyance existing scheduling platforms have. It's nieched towards solopreneurs, coaches, consultants, and similar that just need it to work and help them sell themselves. Also includes video calls. Would love to have feedback/pushback on the idea. But I happily use it for a while now.

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