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Aws has lots of free. What would you need to pay for?

Its pretty easy to step over those limits.

Also localhost and presumably this are good for validating your logic before you throw in roles, network and everything else that can be an issue on AWS.

Confirm it runs in this, and 99% of the time the issue when you deploy is something in the AWS config, not your logic.


>> "It's pretty easy to step over those limits."

Exactly, especially when people are starting out, don't have a clear understanding of the inner workings of the system for whatever reason. Jobs are getting harder to find nowadays and if during learning, you make one mistake, you either pay or the learning stops.


A credit card on file is required to use free tier and it is still a barrier for many.

The real barrier for me is that I can’t set a hard spending limit.

That's true.

Windows compatibility is pretty overrated at this point. There are a bevy of programs we use commercially that are quite old that just don’t work on 11, and not well on 10. Compatibility mode only gets you do far.

Could.

You can have a ring camera- “just”make it illegal to share/sell the data from it. Have it be an audit item.

They do. But they used to too.

You’re not wrong but which country hosts a search engine of note whose government isn’t currently killing civilians? #madworld


Well, Japan has Searchdesk.com and a few others. Excite and Yahoo have Japanese versions of theirs that are hosted in Japan.

Do their own civilians count? If not, maybe Yandex?


This is a hilarious article.

“It passed all the unit tests, the shape of the code looks right," he said. It's 3.7x more lines of code that performs 2,000 times worse than the actual SQLite. Two thousand times worse for a database is a non-viable product. It's a dumpster fire. Throw it away. All that money you spent on it is worthless.”

“This magic that literally didn’t exist two years ago in more than a toy state is moving at such a rapid rate that it couldn’t even reproduce sqlite three months ago and only got better enough in those weeks to produce a bad version of sqlite! Clearly useless! It has no value, no one is using it to do any work and won’t get better over the next three months or three years!”

An amazing take.


You’re shifting the goalposts. The initial point was that the Rust regeneration of SQLite was wasted money, because it’s unviable due to its slow speed. You’re trying to shift it to be about how it may get better over time. Do you have something that is more specifically refuting the initial quote that doesn’t involve anything about potential improvement?


The point wasn’t to make better SQLite, it was to make a functioning rust SQLite. Which it did. Badly but you don’t start at race cars. No one was assuming production SQLite.

Well... the actual problem is, imho, that it looks like the LLMs seem to have reached (or are close to reaching) a plateau. You might be right about the "three months ago it could not produce a working implementation of a DBMS... but what if in 3 months (or 3 years) it stays stuck at the 20K slower threshold?


People have been saying, without any evidence at all, it's reached or about to reach a plateau for years now. We are clearly still seeing significant forward progress. While it's reasonable to think it will hit some plateau eventually, there's no reason to think that right now just happens to be as good as it's ever going to get.

Context is the plateau. It's why RAM prices are spiking. We're essentially throwing heap at the problem hoping it will improve. That's not engineering. It's not improving on a fundamental, technical level.

> Context is the plateau. It's why RAM prices are spiking.

Yes, context is the plateau. But I don't think it the bottleneck is RAM. The mechanism described in "Attention is all you need" is O(N^2) where N is the size of the context window. I can "feel" this in everyday usage. As the context window size grows, the model responses slow down, a lot. That's due to compute being serialised because there aren't enough resources to do it in parallel. The resources are more likely compute and memory bandwidth than RAM.

If there is a breakthrough, I suspect it will be models turning the O(N^2) into O(N * ln(N)), which is generally how we speed things up in computer science. That in turn implies abstracting the knowledge in the context window into a hierarchical tree, so the attention mechanism only has to look across a single level in the tree. That in turn requires it to learn and memorise all these abstract concepts.

When models are trained the learn abstract concepts which they near effortlessly retrieve, but don't do that same type of learning when in use. I presume that's because it requires a huge amount of compute, repetition, and time. If only they could do what I do - go to sleep for 8 hours a day, and dream about the same events using local compute, and learn them. :D Maybe, one day, that will happen, but not any time soon.


If a bridge girder isn't strong enough to support a load, you add material in the right places to make a larger, stronger girder. That is engineering. The idea that if you're not making fundamental improvements to your formulation of steel you aren't progressing is absurd. If adding RAM leads to improvements, and we have the engineering ability to add more RAM, then we are still making progress.

Regardless of how true your statement is (just adding metal to a structure is commonly not a way to solve the problem you stated, it just makes the structure heavier which means other systems have more to support) the point is that it isnt exponential/fundamental progress, which is the type that would be needed to avoid the plateaus folks are mentioning. Also adding RAM doesnt give you even linear improvements, its logarithmic.

> just adding metal to a structure is commonly not a way to solve the problem you stated, it just makes the structure heavier which means other systems have more to support

As a mechanical engineer, that is exactly how you solve that problem.

> point is that it isnt exponential/fundamental progress

You just stuck the goalpost on a rocket and shot it into space. You'd be hard pressed to show evidence that progress in this field was ever exponential - in most fields it never was. Logarithmic progress is typical; you make a lot of progress early on picking the low hanging fruit figuring out the basics, and as the problems get harder and the theory better understood it takes more effort to make improvements, but fundamentally improvements continue.

Incremental progress from increasing scale is, again, perfectly cromulent. It's how we've made advanced computers that can fit in your pocket, it's how clothing became so cheap it's practically disposable, it's how you can fly across the country for less than the price of a nice dinner. Imagine looking at photolithography, textile manufacturing, or aircraft 5 years after they reached their modern forms and saying "this has plateaued".


A little tangental, but I'm not entirely convinced the things you list at the end are improvements, per se. Clothing is so cheap because it's polyester, which is essentially plastic and is demonstrably bad for the environment. Same thing with 'computers in the pocket.' They're so cheap and refreshed at such a rate they become disposable when they really shouldn't be. E-waste is a real problem. Flying across the country...the train is better from a last-mile perspective.

In a sense, looking at photolithography, textile manufacturing, or aircraft as you suggest, does show they plateaued, at least to me.

Are we sure we want to be making things so cheap they become discardable in the ever-growing landfills of the world?


> You'd be hard pressed to show evidence that progress in this field was ever exponential - in most fields it never was.

Literally the introduction of transformers was absolutely exponential, in fact exponential progress is pretty much the defining characteristic of first chunk of a new technology's development. I mean in CS specifically, there are dozens and dozens of instances of exponential improvements. Like... obviously lol. Also the plateau that folks are mentioning is about a lack of fundamental improvements. Perhaps MEs dont experience exponential improvements but we do all the time in CS and SWE lol.


Opus 4.5/4.6 are definitely not plateaus. Definitely a threshold of quality improvement.

20Kx slower is still faster than my manager could write it.

Where are my flying cars?

Flying cars exist? You can get one.

Why do I want to reproduce sqlite? It’s a library. The point of it is to be already written.


Maybe a native rust version of it has value for some people? :)


“Tehran was less than two weeks away from enriching enough uranium for one nuclear bomb, according to US intelligence assessments.”

https://youtu.be/Vc_NanZ-Jos?si=HmZQyGZTG1VgqYaP


We’ve been hearing similar things for decades.


And the US, Israel, and EU member states have been pushing back to prevent that from happening for decades.

Stuxnet, the assassination of nuclear physicists [0], and the expansion of the DGSE's presence in Tehran [1] and various other actions that haven't been publicized or can't be announced have been going on for a reason.

[0] - https://iranprimer.usip.org/blog/2020/dec/02/part-5-assassin...

[1] - https://www.intelligenceonline.fr/europe-russie/2023/11/24/a...


If only there was like treaty or something we could have had.

None of the players in the JCPOA negotiated in good faith.

Iran's continued support for Assad, the Houthis, Hezbollah (especially after their massacre of Syrian Sunnis in 2013 which lead to Jabhat Al-Nusra), and their backing of Nouri Al-Maliki's sectarian government leading to Iraq collapsing into civil war again showed Iran was negotiating with the Obama administration in bad faith.

Similarly, Russia and China's continued support for Iran's ballistics missiles program and other dual use technologies showed that Russia+China as guarunteers wouldn't end well.

There's a reason why the French - one of the guarunteers of the JCPOA - expanded their own offensive intelligence capacity in Tehran, unless you think the DGSE are American (ha)

We would have been in the same position today if Harris was president as well.


True... DECADES and nothing.

The US even destroyed its nuclear installations last year. lol

This is worse than a TV series.


In June, Hegseth claimed those capabilities were “completely obliterated”, and yet they somehow came back in 8 months?

And that’s aside from the fact that US intelligence is historically anything but, when it comes to WMD claims.


It’s more like emailing google for CASM and suing google for emailing it back.

Or in the near future, “Why are we suing the robot company ! Bob told the robot to kill the child!”


This is like saying “multi-core cpus are just solving cpus being slow”. Which yes, exactly.


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