Except illegally migrate to the US without applying or engaging in human traffic and smuggling.
You may not like it, but the USA is still a nation of laws. It's also a modern nation. Third world shitholes have lots of problems caused by illegal immigration because they don't do enough to enforce the law and restore order for their citizens.
I'm rather glad that US culture hasn't yet turned into another Afghanistan or Pakistan.
No, including illegal immigration. There are people who have immigrated fully legally within the boundaries of the laws of our nation and still gotten targeted, detained, arrested, and even deported.
There are American citizens getting stopped and harassed for their papers.
It's always hilarious hearing the "America can't become one of those shithole countries!" while advocating for policies and attitudes that are pervasive in said shithole countries.
Can't edit my prior comment, but anyway here are some thoughts from a Founding Father, 2nd President of the United States, and leader of the American Revolution, John Adams:
> We are to look upon it as more beneficial, that many guilty persons should escape unpunished, than one innocent person should suffer. The reason is, because it’s of more importance to community, that innocence should be protected, than it is, that guilt should be punished; for guilt and crimes are so frequent in the world, that all of them cannot be punished; and many times they happen in such a manner, that it is not of much consequence to the public, whether they are punished or not. But when innocence itself, is brought to the bar and condemned, especially to die, the subject will exclaim, it is immaterial to me, whether I behave well or ill; for virtue itself, is no security. And if such a sentiment as this, should take place in the mind of the subject, there would be an end to all security what so ever
I'm simply calling for my government to obey the Constitution.
If they can't execute these operations without violating people's rights, then uhh... they can't execute these operations. That's not me "banning" anything, that's just called "following the law." Violating people's Constitutional rights (even immigrants', even illegal immigrants'!) is already banned.
It's not a crime to be an unauthorized resident of the United States; it's a civil offense. Knowingly hiring an ineligible worker is a crime, however. I'm curious why we aren't going after the employers attracting and hiring undocumented residents.
Besides, people were being deported in significant numbers across multiple presidents in both parties without resorting to the strategy and tactics of the current administration.
I know they were. But when Obama and Clinton were doing it, one of the big differences was that there were not all these Karens blowing whistles and interfering with those operations. The difference is that now there are far more deranged people who want to take the law into their own hands, and often these people are violently attacking law enforcement.
I don't like having these conversations, and I don't consider myself a defender of the current ICE. It's far from a perfect organisation and it has a lot of problems.
But it seems clear to me that the concept of law and an ordered society has taken a big hit. Trump Derangement Syndrome is not an excuse to allow that to evaporate in Minneapolis and all the other cities with extremely violent protests and attacks on law enforcement.
It seems you're under the belief that the Karens blowing whistles is creating the different enforcement mechanism.
Can you explain how this is not disproven by:
1) POTUS's own statements for years prior to taking power that he would enact a totally different kind of immigration enforcement regime
2) The massive budget increase and personnel surge for ICE, planned at least several months before Trump even took power
3) DHS policy memos shared days after Trump taking power that claimed nationwide expansion of expedited removal powers
4) Declaration of expansive state powers under AEA, also planned months before taking power and therefore months before any public resistance to immigration enforcement
These are all extremely, extremely aberrational actions and policy decisions, all of which contribute to the current facts on the ground in Minneapolis and elsewhere, and none of which were in response to Karens blowing whistles.
What evidence do you have that Karens are causing the enforcement shift, versus the enforcement shift causing the Karens, given that the enforcement shifts were planned for months before the Karens even had any whistles to blow?
> You may not like it, but the USA is still a nation of laws.
I would love it if the US was a country of laws, but the rule of law has been quite thoroughly killed by the Trump administration. It wasn't very effective even before Trump, as you can see by how the prosecution of Trump's crimes got blocked or derailed every step of the way, but after his election, the Constitution has gone completely out of the window.
> Third world shitholes have lots of problems caused by illegal immigration because they don't do enough to enforce the law and restore order for their citizens.
Their problems don't come from illegal immigration. Not even a bit. Unless you use it as a euphemism for colonialism. The real problem there is corruption and a lack of rule of law. And the US is heading in that same direction fast.
> I'm rather glad that US culture hasn't yet turned into another Afghanistan or Pakistan.
Same thing happened to me; can confirm. It was about 20 notifications and updates, then it abruptly stopped. I simply deleted everything above the last work-related email in the "Primary" tab.
I'm overseas and have a Capital One MC card which I've never had a problem with regarding ATMs and frictionless payments, so I find this news fairly alarming. Wait—they're planning on killing their MC card and converting all their card accounts to Discover?
It's the same in the Philippines. Try finding soap, lotion, or sunscreen that doesn't include whitening agents, which are usually very unhealthy for the skin.
It's very much the case that in the Philippines, lighter skin is viewed as upper class haciendero/mestizo culture (not having to work outdoors, not being a nanny, maid, or "helper"). It's the same in many other Asian cultures. Women who live in Asian countries with a high concentration of plastic surgery "procedures" and treatments (like South Korea, for instance) are often the standards of beauty for other Asian countries even though such procedures/whitening and eye/nose surgeries are out of reach.
Despite my pro-documentation comment above, I think there is a legit criticism that a lot of official documentation is a mess. Take man pages, for instance. I don't think it's a good look for greybeards to say "just go read the man page, kid." Many of those man pages are so out of date. You can't legitimately adopt a position of smug superiority by pointing juniors to outdated docs.
[Disclaimer: I'm a Gen Xer. Insert meme of Grandpa Simpson shouting at clouds.]
I think this is undoubtedly true from my observations. Recently, I got together over drinks with a group of young devs (most around half my age) from another country I was visiting.
One of the things I said, very casually, was, "Hey, don't sleep on good programming books. O'Reilly. Wiley. Addison-Wesley. MIT Press. No Starch Press. Stuff like that."
Well, you should've seen the looks on their faces. It was obvious that advice went over very poorly. "Ha, read books? That's hard. We'd rather just watch a YouTube video about how to make a JS dropdown menu."
So yeah, I get that "showing my age" remark. Used to be the discipline in this industry is that you shouldn't ask a question of a senior before you'd read the documentation. If you had read the documentation, man pages, googled, etc., and still couldn't come up with an answer, then you could legitimately ask for a senior mentor's time. Otherwise, the answer from the greybeards would have been "Get out of my face, kid. Go RTFM."
That system that used to exist is totally broken now. When reading and understanding technical documentation is viewed as "old school", then you know we have a big problem.
In a real tech hub, it's definitely going to be a longer commute. Nashville, for instance, is not a tech hub. Yet it has some of the worst commute times for people who have an office there.
The microline series, antique stores are full of them. Every high school or lower undergrad boomer had one or a similar clone and they show up in antique stores and on ebay all the time. The 80 and 120 are about the same size and sell for about $20 and I don't bother buying them anymore when I see them. The 80 puts the T scale on top and the 120 more usefully puts it in the slider IIRC so you can chain calculations.
Grad students or undergrad STEM students would have something like a 900 series, I have several, very nice. This is a desk rule it will not fit in a pocket. Something like a 600 series is a short pocket model, anodized aluminum, very nice and desirable.
The microline series was definitely made to a price point and unless you find one in unusually good condition or its your first collector rule I would not bother picking it up. They stick very strongly and the cursor cracks after half a century and they are slippery in the hand and warp more than most rule and I don't think they're easy to read. They were cheap to make and cheap to buy.
Slide rules in the 2020s are an efficient market; something that barely works "the walmart solar calculator of its generation" like a microline series sells for around $20 today, a VERY desirable N600 series sells for like a hundred bucks and I think its a bargain at that price.
If you mean most popular as in most desired today not most sold back in the day, that's probably the 600 series or specialty rules like I have a N-16-ES with the electronics engineering scales. The latter sells for about as much as a working HP48 calculator, which is interesting. If you mean popular as in attractive that is surely the Faber-Castell short 83N series, I think that's a 62/83N. I would like one of those LOL. Unleash 1960s German graphics artists on industrial design and tell them to make the coolest looking slide rule possible under 60s industrial design rules, you get the 83N series, very very cool way to spend $300 or so, its the kind of thing you put in a lighted display case to admire.
Wow, thanks. This is an incredible deep dive and I obviously came to the right place for that question. This kind of detailed comment is why I still appreciate HN so much...
My Dad is a retired R&D chemist who worked at the DuPont corporation's Experimental Station. When I was a kid he would bring his old slide rules home from work when he got a new one, and at one point he explained to me how they work but I forgot it all long ago.
I still have the slide rules, so this post was a great rabbit hole to go down. In software there's no need for them but I still find them fascinating as a window into how engineers used to get their work done.
... but in the Real World they work pretty well for the sort of calculations you might need to do in the field (literally, in a field, sometimes) and don't require batteries, are reasonably waterproof, and reasonably robust if dropped.
The all plastic ones are intrinsically safe in a potentially flammable environment, they don't require power, they're an education in how most engineering materials in the real world have surprisingly wide tolerances so they are far more than accurate enough for most work, for people who learn graphically/visually they are the logical next educational step after counting on fingers.
They're pretty useful for teaching amateur people how to implement algorithms. Multiple ways to solve problems, some easier than others, some more efficient than others, with immediate rewards of faster higher accuracy.
> The all plastic ones are intrinsically safe in a potentially flammable environment
Never thought of that, and I used to work in an ATEX environment where calculators powered by watch batteries had to be carefully logged and carried across to a "safe" area inside a special (horribly expensive) Peli case.
There were also all manner of specialty "slide rule" calculators of various kinds for special purposes. I used to have a bunch of them especially from the oil business. Don't know if I still have any at this point.
Except illegally migrate to the US without applying or engaging in human traffic and smuggling.
You may not like it, but the USA is still a nation of laws. It's also a modern nation. Third world shitholes have lots of problems caused by illegal immigration because they don't do enough to enforce the law and restore order for their citizens.
I'm rather glad that US culture hasn't yet turned into another Afghanistan or Pakistan.