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Honorable mention frameworks like Chakra that have minimal styling but have many quality of life features. At the end of the day I find there’s a trade off with the new benefits of tailwind like or reactive styling of components with an sx prop. I also think that react has the issue of being harder to customize than Vue which has scoped slots.


If you’re interested in what’s possible atm, check out the Varjo XR-3. No screen door effect.


What intro cs class uses Haskell as its first language!



The first programming course at Edinburgh is the Haskell course, taught in the first year in the first semester.


Reed College


News: You must pay us to show our product. Google: ok, then we won’t site them? News: What?! Don’t show our product? Preposterous! Illegal!


Hi I'm starting a dev tool company and trying to solve the problem of scaling software development. In other words I'm looking for a way to keep complex code-bases understandable.

Software development in the beginning is always super quick. As the app balloons in size, and more devs join, you end up spending more and more time just reading code, making sure you understand what's going on.

Looking to talk to some people to see what their processes and pain points are!


Are you going to share it?


You're also working twice the hours, no thanks. 996? No one is actually productive when you're working for that long.


This is unfortunately a common phenomenon where people from countries in the west see negative press about another country and assume its a universal issue. Often thats not true - companies like Alibaba, Tencent, and many others are willing to bend over backwards to get the best talent.

There's a lot of other companies that want their employees to work overtime, but thats probably true in a lot of countries - probably even in the US.

I wish there was some way of balancing the news coming out of countries - without resorting to censorship. It would remove a lot of prejudice,



"If we find things we like, 996 is not a problem," Ma said in a blog post Sunday on Chinese social media site Weibo. "If you don't like [your work], every minute is torture," he added.

I agree with this sentiment, I happen to work 996 on my own stuff mainly because I love it. I know a lot of people who have jobs and pour themselves into it because they love what they do as well.

I'd say its only an issue once you are being punished for not working 996.


You missed the other part.

"I personally think that 996 is a huge blessing," he said. "How do you achieve the success you want without paying extra effort and time?"


I'm not necessarily disagreeing with the point you're trying to make regarding how Jack Ma might be part of the problem.

But its not really a "China" problem. There's a lot of startups and mature companies in the US that have similarly aggressive personalities at the helm who demand a lot from their employees.

My main point was the notion that people are assuming that its universal in China, when its not always true (whether its more prevalent than in the US or not - i dont know).

The only reason I'm even making this point was because how grandparent to my comment made a simple comment about how companies in Shenzen pay a lot, and the response to that was a blanket "but 996" when that might not be true.


The way to remove prejudice is to educate people like you are doing. Fundamentally, it is expected that the rest of the world sees less news about your country than you do. That's how news works.

It would behove us all to expect and believe that a country is usually more nuanced than the extremes that make it across a border.


Especially in the US, I'd say. US have pretty long hours compared to Europe.


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It depends, it is true if you always get the dirty works, like coding without much thinking, but if there are some innovation ideas come to your mind from time to time, life will be much easier, and your promotion will become easier.

Got promotion is not easy here, you need to be expertise in some technical areas, and pass promotion interview, there will be many questions from many experts during that interview, you won't be considered as qualified until every answer from you satisfies them, that is why many young engineers choose to leave in one or two years, there are not much chances for them, and even you are true expert, you will get frustrated.

but life is not that hard than you think, I have a Tencent's game engineer friend, he is a tennis fun, what I get from him is they have tennis activity every day, and he can go off work at about 6PM to play tennis 2-3 days every week.

and I heard some guys from google, they need the same long hours work and pretty stressful, just they don't need to stay at the same work place that long, they have the working place flexibility.


Not in these places.


My Dad makes more than that in Australia. He is a software scientist though, he makes prototype physics simulation software. I think he's underpaid when considering the amount of value he creates (in 5 months made a better version of one simulation technology than a team of about a dozen working in it for 3-4 yesterday) but then again my dad doesn't care much for money. He likes working on interesting problems.


It's worth noting that AUD$1 = USD$0.71, and that the cost of living here is substantially higher than most of the US (though the Valley is probably much more even-run). Having said that, AUD$200k is certainly not unheard of as you get on in experience.

I agree that if you were a specialist consultant and found an exploitable niche, you could pull USD$200k equivalent here.


I make 165kAUD+ super, typical web dev full stack role. This is high for Sydney but some companies here are smart enough to throw an extra 30k into the offer to make sure they build a good team. To get to this from 100k a few years ago I just realised you increase your standard and wait longer to get a job.

OTOH this salary doesn’t go far in terms of lifestyle in Sydney. It is expensive, it’s probably enough to live off but I’m not sticking half my salary into the stock market like you American developer like to do.

200k US in Sydney means either get great at kernel level code or multithreaded c++ and help the poker players make more money from the stock market. Or forget technical and become a senior scrum master or project manager for CBA. I think rural doctors and phsyciatrists rake it in, and geologists during the next mining boom. Install air conditioning is another way or any kind of trade where the labour component can be marked up extortionately and where some “tax planning” can be utilised.


I agree. The article is so obviously biased against anything related to the world of tech that it makes me feel like it was written by a bot.


I've experienced a similar response from people I talk with. It's such a simple premise and idea that seems oversimplified and lacks nuance. The main issue is that it is so against the way the system currently world, there's no foreseeable solution.


> The main issue is that it is so against the way the system currently world, there's no foreseeable solution.

But you could argue against climate change with much the same logic (and, indeed, a lot of people seem to do). "The conclusions would demand changes to our status quo in a degree of magnitude that hasn't ever been there before, therefore, they must be wrong".


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