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I don't feel forced at all. I use adblockers and my problem goes away.

However I was talking about the 'fuck adblockers because I need ads to support my hosting costs' mentality. Those people want to force people to view ads so that they can make some money.



Why do you feel entitled to use their services? Don't you think that makes you a hypocrite?


I don't feel entitled to use their services.

They put content on a publicly accessible server for anyone to access if they choose to do so. (I sometimes choose to)

They also link ads on the same server for anyone to access if they choose to do so. (I always choose not to)

If they took their content away, I wouldn't give a shit. There are many other things I can, and do, spend my time on.

Since I never paid for their content, and they never asked me to pay for it, I have no expectation of what must happen with the content.

Edit:formatting and spelling.


Then why do you use their services? You know certain companies provide a free service because they can serve ads alongside with the service and this is how they operate. You chose to use their business, but to obstruct their business model intentionally. This is hypocrisy at its finest.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not mad at all. Well, a little bit, but for a totally different reason. Advertising is not going anywhere. In fact, it will grow incredibly in the coming years. And the actions and attitude of people like you will make it way more invasive and amoral than it currently is.

Congratulations on running adblock. You stuck it to the man!


I click on a link because I might find it interesting. I risk my time and data going to that link because the content might be worth it. If I would somehow be forced to see ads in order to view the content, then it would not be worth my time or data, and I would not go to the link. The advertisers/website take a risk by placing ads. They know people hate ads. They know people might use adblockers. They know most people that don't ignore the ads anyway.

People who run botnets that spam the living fuck out of millions of email addresses have the exact same business model. Send lots of unwanted advertising to masses of people hoping for that one idiot who will take the bait. Is using a spam filter obstructing their business model? No, because one of the main risks that the business model accounts for is the fuckload of spam filtering that is used.

Putting ads on your website as a business model, is using a business model based on risk. The risk that many people will have no response to an advert. People who use adblockers are built into that risk. So I am not obstructing it. So I don't see how it is hypocrisy at all.

To me personally spam and ads on a website are exactly the same thing. In fact all advertising (radio, TV, posters, door to door sales, cold calls) is spam by my definition. I don't want to be told what I need/want. I know what I need/want and I will go find the products/services to satisfy that need/want by myself. No advertising necessary.

Why are you a little bit mad? What would you suggest everyone should do? I fully agree that advertising will grow worse and worse. And I also agree that adblockers are accelerating this process. And I'm glad about that. I can't wait for the whole advertising industry to become so evil and abhorrent to the human civilization that it becomes illegal on a global scale. In the mean time, let the arms race continue. I don't see how the advertising industry will ever win.

And no, I don't run adblock to "Stick it to the man". I run adblock because I hate adverts. But if by "the man" you mean the advertising industry, then yes. Congratulations to me. Fuck them. I hope I make their lives difficult. I can't wait until their whole industry implodes. Even if it takes another 200 years, then I'll be glad I contributed in a small way to their downfall.


>If I would somehow be forced to see ads in order to view the content, then it would not be worth my time or data, and I would not go to the link

So you don't use google, youtube, reddit, stackoverflow or any service that you already know is ad supported, because it will not be worth your time or data, correct?


I use all of those sites, because I am not forced to view the adverts. Just like I sometimes even block or alter certain content on websites that I visit. The server is hosting the files, but I am never forced to display a web element in my browser. I do what I want with it.


If you want to use those sites you must allow their ads to load in your browser. It's in their terms of service. Do you block the ads while using the services or don't you?


I tried to find the Tos for the sites you listed.

I only managed to find the ToS for Stackoverflow [0] and it does not mention adverts or adblockers anywhere.

Please provide links to the ToS of the sites you mentioned earlier where it is stated that you have to display the adverts on their site.

[0] http://stackexchange.com/legal/terms-of-service




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