I've never been a fan of bootcamps because it seems like a lot of them refuse to follow the law with respect to licensing, and because I think they tend to make outlandish claims. These companies can afford the licensing costs, and I think the state has a valid interest in regulating any company that calls itself a school.
The lack of concern about licensing, along with the way these companies play fast loose with their employment statistics makes the whole industry seem very fly-by-night. It's really too bad because I really like the idea of a company that trains people who are interested in programming just enough to get their foot in the door somewhere.
American companies should do more to train American workers, and I feel like a $15k fee all but ensures that the student has some skin in the game. Might this make them viable candidates for apprenticeships at American tech companies?
I realize that on the job training is portable, but there has to be a way to work that out. Not only that, but that on the job training is as portable for programmers who come in with a CS degree as it is for programmers who come in from a bootcamp.
Many companies have a college credit benefit that has to be paid back if the employee leaves the company within a certain time. Wouldn't it be okay to have something like an apprentice position, where the salary was lower for 3 years, say half the usual as an incentive for the company, but the apprentice programmer would get real world experience, plus something good on their resume?
After three years, the programmer could stay or leave, but both parties would have most of their their benefit at that point. If the programmer stayed, they would start at the bottom of the pay scale. The company could fire at any time, but it wouldn't be in their interests to do so unless there were serious problems.
It's not perfect, but it could be a huge boon to tech companies and apprentices alike. Yes, some people would shake out, but that happens whether someone has a CS degree or not.
So took any type of employment for counting an alumni as employed, but then only counted full time employees for average pay. Which broke the law since that's not proper reporting, along with licensing laws.
The lack of concern about licensing, along with the way these companies play fast loose with their employment statistics makes the whole industry seem very fly-by-night. It's really too bad because I really like the idea of a company that trains people who are interested in programming just enough to get their foot in the door somewhere.
American companies should do more to train American workers, and I feel like a $15k fee all but ensures that the student has some skin in the game. Might this make them viable candidates for apprenticeships at American tech companies?
I realize that on the job training is portable, but there has to be a way to work that out. Not only that, but that on the job training is as portable for programmers who come in with a CS degree as it is for programmers who come in from a bootcamp.
Many companies have a college credit benefit that has to be paid back if the employee leaves the company within a certain time. Wouldn't it be okay to have something like an apprentice position, where the salary was lower for 3 years, say half the usual as an incentive for the company, but the apprentice programmer would get real world experience, plus something good on their resume?
After three years, the programmer could stay or leave, but both parties would have most of their their benefit at that point. If the programmer stayed, they would start at the bottom of the pay scale. The company could fire at any time, but it wouldn't be in their interests to do so unless there were serious problems.
It's not perfect, but it could be a huge boon to tech companies and apprentices alike. Yes, some people would shake out, but that happens whether someone has a CS degree or not.
Anyone care to throw some darts at these ideas?