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> Apple includes a lot of information about what and how data is stored for their services.

Apple says a lot of things. Just like FB said that they were being responsible with our data. I'm asking Apple to show me what they are doing with my data. If they've been designing their systems properly, this should be simple to do.

> Nearly every service is optional, with the exception of getting OS updates and using the App Store for third-party apps.

But there's still a lot of data that goes back to Apple, which doesn't have to go through them at all.

> Reasonable people can believe that they do show you how your data is stored, so it's important to be more specific about what you're getting at.

But AFAIK, they don't show. They only tell. And I think reasonable people would be distrustful of Marketing-Speak.

> They refuse to allow you to control your data in arbitrary ways.

It doesn't matter how they refuse to allow me to control my data, it matters that they allow me to control my data.

> Reasonable people can believe that they allow you to control your own data if you want to.

But those reasonable people would be factually wrong. It's a fact that their products refuse to decouple themselves from Apple's servers.

> it's important to be more specific about what you're getting at.

Any data. Updates, documents, telemetry data, logs, etc.

I believe that reasonable people would look at what Apple says, then seeing that their actions don't follow, would distrust them. If Apple is spending a lot of effort protecting my data, then why do they work so hard to hide that away from me. To me, that seems like it could have huge marketing potential.



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