Perhaps I was unfair - that's just my perspective of the current state of affairs. I've used some HP printers and some non-HP printers in the last few years, and the HP ones did nothing to stand out of the pack.
I guess what I mean to say is that HP just seems like yet-another consumer electronics company. It isn't apparent to me if people have brand-loyalty to HP in the consumer segment.
The calculator group was shut down, an HP division in Australia tried to revive it a while back. I think the HP calculators that are still being sold are done by a Korean OEM.
I wonder what Woz thinks now. It must be a sad day for many HP engineers.