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It still makes you a rude jerk in most situations.


If I throw a bad pass in a ball game, and it gets called out as such, does that imply that they consider me a 'bad person'? Possibly some totally irredeemable piece of shit that should be locked up and not around children?

Or is a bad pass, like a the bad idea thrown out there, just that?


Ok first - no it doesn't make you an irredeemable piece of shit or a bad person. But if you do it in a weird way it does mean that you're someone who's lacking in social skills. We're talking in abstract ideas so I can't possibly know what you meant but:

blitzar: what the fuck is wrong with you, smcl, that's two goals you've cost us because you lost your man

and

blitzar: for fuck's sake, smcl, focus, watch #11 he's killing us with those runs. we're not out of the game but you need to step it up

are two ways you as a teammate could probably admonish me for costing our team a couple of goals. Both involve swearing, both are blunt and establish some fault. One is useless ranting, and will probably heap misery on the teammate and make them wish for the final whistle. The other is relatively productive and could possibly help (depending on how useless or hungover I am). So it depends, if by "called out" you mean something like #1 then I strongly disagree. If it's #2 then cool, I'd like you as a teammate :)

But on that original topic, I think that when someone says they think "that's a stupid idea" is unconstructive or damaging, it doesn't mean they want to be coddled, given a treat and told they're special. It just means that's a needlessly confrontational approach. If that person at the top of this thread is really on the same wavelength with some people that they can openly talk like that, more power to them. But I suspect what's actually happening is a handful of students were talking that way, and most people secretly resented it and didn't enjoy being around them because of how they acted.

Then again, if it's coming from Feynmann I imagine there's something in the tone, delivery or context that would soften the blow :)


It's a line. I would not want ideas in my workplace to regularly be called "stupid" but I wouldn't mind "bad" nearly as much.


In the USA it does, in Europe it's way more normal.




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