No path to citizenship? Not interested, sorry.

pmjordan · on Sept 25, 2008

Most, if not all EU countries have provisions for obtaining citizenship after a certain number of years of residence. Or do you mean gaining citizenship after a certain number of years in any EU country?

ardit33 · on Sept 25, 2008

Yes. Like in germany, where it takes about 16 years of living there to get a citizenship, and since you were not born there, you will always be a second class citizen, always. Plus in a typical racist/ethnocentric way, you have to renounce your motherland's country's citizenship. No, thanks.

There is a real good reason USA attracts smart immigrants in droves. Even with the latest problems after 2001, this country will be able to attract more foreigner than any other country in europe.

mynameishere · on Sept 25, 2008

Plus in a typical racist/ethnocentric way, you have to renounce your motherland's country's citizenship

Oh, that's too much to ask. They don't allow phony citizenship, but only the real kind.

ardit33 · on Sept 25, 2008

but you will never be a "German" in their eyes, even if the passport they give you says so. Who is the one being phony?

fbailey · on Sept 25, 2008

Germany 8 years ( with an immigration course 7 years - very good knowledge of german 6 years) - US 5 years. If you don't like germany got to the UK.

wheels · on Sept 25, 2008

Details are here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_nationality_law#Naturali...

Permanent residence is a load of paperwork, but still fairly straightforward if you've been working in Germany for 5 years and as of the latest laws gives you the right to work and live anywhere in the EU.