Read the post I was responding to. The author hypothesized that "revenge seeking" is why US legal system has worse social outcomes than Europe. Yet "Asia" (and by this I include a large number of countries) is revenge seeking embodied and has significantly better social outcomes than Europe.

So the hypothesis seems unlikely to be valid.

Germany has lower murder rates then Japan.

Asia as a whole does not have nearly zero murder rates. It contains quite unsafe countries.

Also I've heard (no proof) that Japan is more likely to characterize deaths as "accidents" or "suicide" to keep the murder rates down.

Excessive punishments result in "missed" crimes - if the punishment for speeding was immediate death, cops would be much less likely to pull over speeders I feel.

> significantly better social outcomes

I think we have different ideas about what this means. For me, it is that crime ceases to exist because criminals integrate into society because of successful rehabilitation. For you it is that crime ceases to exist because criminals are scared.

I will editorialize that your system has the population effectively coerced into compliance by the state (so not coming to these conclusions about how to be a good community member on their own).

I hypothesize my scheme results in a better/happier/stronger community/society but I don't have data in either direction. With that said my system is more humane/humanistic and results in a positive outcome for the "criminals" too.