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It seems people are never thinking what happens if he is getting old. Good luck when you can still ride a bike when you are 70s and in the snow.


If and when I can't ride (which I suspect will be never, since it's an ebike and my parents, whi are both in their nineties, still occasionally ride non-electric bikes), then I will find something else. It's not like the ebike is a huge investment that nails me for life...


If people exercised instead of living in their cars/offices and walking 5 minutes per day they'd be able to do basic human things at 70 instead of having their body give up at 40


> If people exercised instead of living in their cars/offices and walking 5 minutes per day

I did that. Running, cycling, walking, etc. Substantially more walking than 5 minutes a day, too...

> instead of having their body give up at 40

...and my right knee became unfixable trash somewhere between 45 and 50 (a variety of ailments, possibly exacerbated by a ~2001 injury.)


I'm sorry for you, and it's a data point, but statistically at 45 virtually everyone is an heavily overweight/obese excuse of a human being. For every sport injured person you have 100 obese who can barely go though basic human movements anymore


"It seems people are never thinking what happens if he is getting old"

You really think, that we people who do drive bicycles, do not think about cold and rain? We are the first to notice it first hand. So we do think about it, as we have to regulary deal with it.

The solution is adequate clothing.

But yes, I also own a car as I do not live somewhere with good public transport system. And I do know people who ride a bike in their 70s, but I am aware, that there will likely come a time, when I will be indeed too old for riding in the winter. But chances are, that by then I am also so fragile, that I might be too old for save driving also. Hopefully self driving is ready by then.


You want some 70 year old guy driving a car in your city in the snow? People outlive their ability to drive a car by 5-10 years. If you build a city that welcomes and requires cars, and discourages biking and walking, you are dooming the elderly to spending the ends of their lives at home.


70 isn't old.


The visual acuity of a 70-year-old is roughly on par with a 20-year-old wearing dark sunglasses at night.


That's not actually true.

Although it's bizarre because in the US 70-year-olds seem incredibly frail compared to 70-year-olds anywhere else.


It is true. At night a 70-year-old person is basically blind. They can't cope with oncoming headlights because their pupils take seriously minutes to make adjustments that a young eye can make in seconds. Old pupils don't open as wide as young pupils. Old eyes have only half the rod receptors a young eye has. These effects are already noticeable to people at age 50.

The elderly can only drive safely under ideal conditions: sun high, not on the horizon, not at night, in clear weather where nobody is using their headlights.


> They can't cope with oncoming headlights [at night]

One of the reasons I stopped driving 20 years ago (~30) was because I have this problem. Made night driving much more stressful.


That'll be why it's all people half my age (I'm about 50) who are terrified of driving at night because they can't see properly, and I (and people my age) can read the number the guy in the car in front is calling on his phone, then.


Dad is 77 and biking in the snow just fine. He's never been a car person so he's quite used to it. Always gets studded tires for slippery weather.


Anywhere a bike can go, an electric wheelchair/scooter ("Rascal") can go. I intend on swapping out my bike for one of those when thr time comes.

There are also electric adult tricycles, etc.


I mean the answer is to just put on a coat? In the upper midwest plenty of people switch to snowmobile based commutes and errand running in the winter for example. You aren't enclosed then. You survive, in fact people even find it fun.


Elderly people driving cars isn't exactly an ideal situation either...




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