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> Musk will continue to lie about it because he thinks that without full self-driving Tesla is worth basically zero

Lots of people who buy Teslas don’t care about the self driving at all. They want the best-designed, best-driving, fastest electric cars on the road with the best charging network.



> They want the best-designed, best-driving, fastest electric cars on the road with the best charging network.

Well, Europe's charging infrastructure is the best at the moment and "best driving" is subjective. So do you mean they want a Porsche Taycan in Europe? Or maybe the Audi e-tron GT? Or the Mercedes EQS? Or perhaps the BMW iX?

You'll need to be more specific.

Lucid has started European deliveries (https://www.electrive.com/2022/12/21/lucid-motors-launches-a...) so we can add the Air to our list. As we know, the Lucid Air is great for both range and performance:

https://insideevs.com/reviews/443791/ev-range-test-results/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyDpQpcPpuc




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