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		cubefox on May 25, 2023 \| parent \| context \| favorite \| on: War Is a Racket (1935) I'm not an expert on American history, but the War of 1812 was first declared by the US against the UK. It doesn't sound like a purely defensive matter. 9/11 was a terrorist attack which is not something one could fight a defensive war against.

paulddraper on May 25, 2023 [–]

Yes, the US declared war first. (After Britain seized American ships.)

The US was "properly attacked" -- and capital burned -- though whether they were attacked first is a matter of debate.

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