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IP is only copied, not stolen. It goes both ways -- Tesla learned how to efficiently build and operate their factories from the Chinese. And as Elon always says, manufacturing is 1000x as hard as design and prototyping.


Using this definition, identities are only copied, and not stolen.

Learning from the Chinese is entirely different than using operatives to take the corporate secrets from lets say the biggest steel company in the world, and then driving them out of business within a few years.

If this is the world you want to live in, fine. Just don't complain when large corporations copy your work one day with no legal oprecourse.


> Just don't complain when large corporations copy your work one day with no legal recourse.

To be fair, that is the schadenfreude. Large corporations have been copying works of little people for ages. They only started crying about 'IP theft' when someone bigger (China) started doing the same to them, and to make it worse, most of the corps willingly handed the IP over because they wanted cheap exploitable labor.


Tesla bought a company called Grohmann Automation in 2017, factory automation company. I am not sure what Tesla learned from Chinese…


Tesla's first purpose built car factory was built in China using mostly local expertise. Their Berlin factory is basically a copy of their Chinese factory. Grohmann Automation was to super automate their factories, which is why the Model 3 roll out was such a disaster and which they abandoned in favour of conventional car manufacturing techniques.




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