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Show HN: Never wait for Paypal again (slowpal.com)
63 points by abuella on Jan 7, 2013 | hide | past | favorite | 32 comments


The problem I have with this (and I don't know whether it's just me, or if it's more common) is that I'm now innately distrustful of any third party service that wants to connect to of my banking or bank-like accounts and services.

I don't know these guys, I don't know how secure they are, and more importantly, I'm fairly sure PayPal would disown any responsibility if the data they would be able to access was used for nefarious purposes.


its using official paypal apis. read only access. no funny business. no nefarious purposes. just trying to make life a little easier for fellow developers.


Thanks for the reply - this wasn't a knock against you guys per se, just my sense of distrusting anything that wants to connect to banking details.

For example, transaction knowledge is often used as a verification system by banks, and in general the more knowledge a phisher/scammer has about you the more able they are to socially engineer their way into your life.

I'm perfectly prepared to believe that I'm being far too paranoid about this kind of thing, and that many (or even most) other people wouldn't be as concerned as I am


My first concern is security. I see that you say you import "via SSL" into a "secure Slowpal account".

Can you elaborate on what makes the Slowpal account secure?


Nice idea. Your logo is a lawsuit waiting to happen, though.


Agreed. Change the colors at least. Colors + the fact that he italicized the logo make it way too similar to PayPal's logo. Really not a good move.


I seriously doubt they will sue on the basis that his name has "Pal", uses italics, and has blue like the PayPal logo.

They may however, just cut off access through Paypal API.


He might get a letter like this [0]:

We are intellectual property counsel to PayPal, Inc. of Palo Alto, California. As you are well aware, PayPal provides financial services under the PAYPAL name and service mark and owns and operates the website at . Our client's name, service mark and website are among its most valuable assets.

We have recently been made aware of your operation of two websites, and , that infringe our client's service mark rights in the PAYPAL mark. Printouts of your websites are attached to the confirmation copy of this letter. We further understand that these websites provide a forum to criticize PayPal, Inc. Our client respects your right to do so--provided your websites do not contain any false, disparaging or defamatory statements. We must remind you that any such statements contained on your websites are actionable and can subject you to liability.

Regardless of your purported mission, your use of our client's PAYPAL mark in connection with the operation of websites and in domain names constitutes trademark infringement. Quite simply, use of the PAYPAL mark in a commercial manner is not protected free speech. It is quite evident from your websites that you are profiting off of the PAYPAL mark by selling banner advertisements, offering competing financial services, and using your site to attract PayPal's customers for your own commercial gain. For such infringement, you can be held liable for monetary damages (tripled), an injunction and our client's attorneys' fees.

On behalf of our client, we must insist that you immediately cease all further use of the PAYPAL mark and transfer the domain names to our client. We further demand that you provide an accounting of the profits that you have received in connection with your operation of these websites.

Your swift and full cooperation would enable us to resolve this matter quickly and on an amicable basis. Please contact me as soon as possible, and no later than June 7, 2002, so that we may facilitate a prompt resolution of this matter.

Very truly yours,

Anthony J. Malutta TOWNSEND and TOWNSEND and CREW LLP Two Embarcadero Center, 8th Floor San Francisco, CA 94111-3834 Tel: 415.576.0200 Fax: 415.576.0300

[0] http://www.paypalsucks.com/domain-name-disputes.shtml


eBay (the parent company) has gone after services with the word Bay it in with completely different logos


It looks great and all that, but wouldn't 'FastPal' have made for a better name?


That's what I was thinking


fastpal.com isn't available, but fasterpal.com is.


nice! I've signed up for slowpal, just in time to do my taxes so needed this


Am I the only one that thinks the name and branding choice is misguided?

How is this any different from providing a valued added service for Paypal and naming it FuckPaypal.com?


My first thought was to do with the name - is 'SlowPal' at all at risk for trademark infringement?


So every name that ends with Pal is off limits?


... sigh. If you want to name a laundromat SuitPal that is a drastically different situation than building a service designed as a frontend for a service called PayPal, naming your service with the same naming pattern as the service you rely on, and then building a logo using the same font, styling, and color scheme.


It is just so sad that Paypal themselves don't feel the need to update their 10 year old interface and make it fresh and snappy to use.

Oh well, all the best to your project. I'm sure i will give it a try the next time i try to find a 3 month old transaction.


Why not just use the TransactionSearch API? I only visit PayPal's website when I need to change an account setting.


I think it's a very nice idea! I even didn't know that PayPal have 3rd party authorization.

I'm working in legal and you should change your logo at least!


This is a great idea (and I know of people that would love this) but I can't any information on your privacy controls. Doesn't this potentially break data protection laws if a company imports their users payment data and you're not protecting it properly?


In the screenshot tagline:

    "useR one or more..." --> "use one or more..."
And they should remove this (it breaks at a lot of mid widths):

    .navbar-fixed-top .container, .navbar-fixed-bottom .container {
      width: 1170px;
    }


Great Idea. However, I would have preferred the name "FastPal", "HassleFreePal", or something to that tone instead of a slower Pal.


Appreciate the kind gesture, but I still don't feel comfortable to let third party to handle my purchasing records.


I've been using this for a while, the graphing is a bit limited but has loads of potential!


This has potential. Shouldn't currency decimals be displayed right-aligned?


it would be awesome if the code behind this was open-sourced. I like most people have a hard time letting a third party handle sensitive information like this.


As a side note: who is sick of the Bootstrap #0088CC color?


I'm also sick of Bootstrap startups with the same colored-buttons ...


I, for once, welcome the consistency across the web


This is hilarious.


awesome. please tell us what you're doing to ensure the data is safe?




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