> What I'm saying is - contrary to your point of view - that there were workers revolutions against communism and that there weren't workers revolutions against capitalism.
There is probably some strained definition of "workers revolution" for which this is true, but since it doesn't contradict anything I said, I am not sure what your basis is for the claim that it is contrary to my point of view, rather than a complete non-sequitur.
And, if it wasn't workers, who exactly is that drove the revolutionary change in western economic systems that led to late 19th Century capitalism being replaced, pretty much universally in the West by the mid-20th Century, with the modern "mixed" economy which adopts a wide range of socialist elements?
>And, if it wasn't workers, who exactly is that drove the >revolutionary change in western economic systems that led to >late 19th Century capitalism being replaced, pretty much >universally in the West by the mid-20th Century, with the >modern "mixed" economy which adopts a wide range of >socialist elements?
Voters - you can even substitute "voters" with "workers" - in a democratic process (non-violent) and not workers in a revolutionary anti-capitalistic revolution.
So, it's not like they hated capitalism so much that they had to do revolutionary violent acts to overthrow the system. They modified it by voting. Evolution, progress, not a revolution.
Again, revolutions there were against communistic rule. Communism was much worse so people revolted against it and not opted for an evolutionary change.
Funny how communism propaganda has always been all about revolution, but that never happened. History shows us that people - mostly workers who were supposed to have it so good under the communistic rule - revolted against communism. Not capitalism. In capitalism they voted for a change and they got it.
There is probably some strained definition of "workers revolution" for which this is true, but since it doesn't contradict anything I said, I am not sure what your basis is for the claim that it is contrary to my point of view, rather than a complete non-sequitur.
And, if it wasn't workers, who exactly is that drove the revolutionary change in western economic systems that led to late 19th Century capitalism being replaced, pretty much universally in the West by the mid-20th Century, with the modern "mixed" economy which adopts a wide range of socialist elements?