Yeah, book is much better though, if you haven't read it, I highly recommend it!

I wasn't able to find a way to present what we were doing as a product, and kept going with a traditional model of getting project specs, doing discovery on requirements and budget and then putting together a quote.

yeah, it seems the movies veered off a good bit, based on the wikis i read ;)

interesting. I think that's the basic business model my boss has. it seems to be working now, but i'm always curious as to what other models are out there