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Thank you for proving the point that you can't design to meet everyones need in a way that removes the need for zoom.

Yes, your examples absolutely need zoom, or they will be totally unusable for a large number of people.

I have close to perfect sight, but big fingers, and even on my 5.5" phone the buttons in the first ones were annoyingly small.

In the second one, the text was annoying small. Again on a 5.5" phone. A lot of people wouldn't be able to read it at all without zoom.

> I wonder if the group of people that can't manage to browse with user-scaling turned off on their modern, high-end mobile phones are the same who can't seem to load any website posted to HN that uses JavaScript because not everybody uses a browser with JS enabled…

No, they are people who far to often run into designers who assumes everyone has perfect eye-sight and dainty little fingers and so thinks it's ok to disable zoom.

The only time it is acceptable to disable zoom is if you provide your own, context-aware zooming mechanism and make very, very sure it does a better job than the generic browser zoom.



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