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I think the best strategy in such cases is to flag the submission.


"Children are not an all or nothing proposal."

I'm not sure I understand this mentality. Why force a life into this existence if you don't do everything in your power to make it as accommodating as you can? Modern life in it of itself will be working against it.


You just give a greater value to this life than somebody else does. And you give yourself a greater responsability about. Those are all moral choices, there is no good answer. Only the way you see the world.


Your attitude is a very recent one in human history.

The person you are responding to is espousing an atittude that is far older and more widespread throughout the world.


Should we strive for an equal society? As such, shouldn't all children be born with equally (or minimally) committed parents?


What? This comment reads to me that you want a homogenous society... The people who do great things take big risks. Shit happens. This is a thread for startups, where many people eschew the "safe" corporate jobs in order to create or do something that many people don't think are possible.

You're reading about an accident, and then assuming the amount of risk involved without knowing anything about the sport. Accidents happen all the time, in all sorts of ways. It's very possible to do something like this and have a large safety margin, as has been shown by his 24yr history of doing it. Someone who is this experienced at what they do, in a dangerous seeming sport, will be very well aware of possible mistakes, and how to mitigate them. I personally think teaching your child to be "safe" and not take "risks" is kind of stupid. I'd much rather teach my child to learn how to push the limits intelligently, and see what in this world is possible.


> you want a homogenous society

Can you tell me what that means?

> people who do great things take big risks

Parents? With their lives? Can you describe such a scenario?

> This is a thread for startups

Is the risk involved in startups of the same impact to their children as their deaths?

> then assuming the amount of risk involved

Am I? Is this considered a safe pastime then?

> and have a large safety margin, as has been shown by his 24yr history of doing it

Now who's assuming? 24 years of not telling anyone he's going on a dive?

> I personally think teaching your child to be "safe" and not take "risks" is kind of stupid

You're playing semantics. mortal/life-threatening risk/safety is clearly different from other forms of usages of the same word(s).

You absolutely should teach your children to avoid those kinds of risks, or at least, in the context of having dependants.


> Should we strive for an equal society? As such, shouldn't all children be born with equally (or minimally) committed parents?

I wasn't sure what you meant by "equal society," everyones different, the only way to get "equal" where all children have "equally" committed parents, would be quite homogenous.

The main point I think I'll reiterate, is that yes, you are assuming the amount of risk this person took. The amount of risk involved goes down the more you know about something. This person definitely knows more than you about the sport of cave diving, and can better judge the amount of risk involved. I think that's all I'm trying to say. You can do something that seems dangerous to outsiders, quite safely.

And I also think that lessons from one sport, or activity, apply to other areas of life.


I'm still not sure, but yes - a child shouldn't be exposed to unusual, or high levels of risk due to the "attitude of the parent".

This person knows more than I do about diving, but not necessarily about risk; A doctor who studies lung cancer might know more about the risks of smoking than a life-long smoker.


My thoughts exactly. The language used and driving idea were so clinical and robotic that I couldn't tell if this article was satire or not.


This is the argument I used with the 2 doctors that refused to perform a vasectomy on me when I was age 25.

The hereditary history of physical and mental illnesses that run in my family, the economic/environmental projection for the rest of this century as well as the hypotheticals that you listed tip the scales in entirety towards the costs rather than the benefits.

None of the nebulous, ineffable personal fulfillments that parents speak of have ever sounded like a basis for a good moral argument for forcing a new life into this world.


"Another big-picture VR problem: It’s boring to be around people who are using it."

This sentence is pretty emblematic of the product the author of this article was expecting vs the Rift that Oculus pitched in their kickstarter video.


Not to mention that mirroring the VR experience to a TV or monitor is absolutely delightful to watch. I've had people come over to play Alien Isolation, Dreadhalls, or Volo Airsport, and watching them play was a huge delight for everyone. The responses you get from someone who is trapped in a room with an alien are much more visceral.


You may as well lock people in an isolation pod. This is the problem, isn't it?


They aren't isolated, though. If you know you've got an audience only a foot or two away, you do behave differently.

In my experience, people often run their mouths constantly -- "Oh god, what's that, what's over there, is that the alien?" And there's feedback from the audience, "Oh shit, watch out!"

Not to mention the occasional breath on someone's neck or tap on the shoulder.

When the experience is over, you pull the headset up -- an action not too far removed from looking away from a monitor -- and immediately start sharing. "Man, in that room with the shadows, I was watching the alien for a good 20 seconds before any of you saw it!"


Another big-picture problem with the news: It's boring to be around people who are reading it.

I also find it's boring to be around people who are Google Searching, or using Facebook.


His complaint seems just plain wrong... are these VR systems incapable of mirroring the image to a TV?


nope, mirroring was actually the default setup for the rift and still possible


So it's just HTML?

Is there a reason (legal or otherwise) that they can't just use HTML?


"So it's just HTML? Is there a reason (legal or otherwise) that they can't just use HTML?"

The BBC have an open source library for building apps for TV based on HTML, CSS and JavaScript called TAL: TV Application Layer. It's designed to be deployed across HTML-based TV devices.

http://fmtvp.github.io/tal/getting-started/introducing-tal.h...

Apple's tvOS is likely to have much richer functionality since it's hosted on Apple's own hardware. However, an open standard for TV apps would be a good thing.

The BBCs TAL was released as open source in March 2013. But I don't know if it's gained wider traction in the industry.


In no way is this html. its xml. they use xml for the same reason that most do - to define their own elements and behaviors thereof


XML without namespaces, so pretty much just markup.

You know, without namespaces, you take out the eXtensibility-bit.


> pretty much just markup

SGML, actually. "Just markup" can entail other things, like TeX, for example.


I have no idea how it's actually implemented, but it's quite likely TVML is powered by HTML (and WebKit).

Rather than expecting developers to use an open-spec-compliant generic toolkit, they've just built modules on top of it to both make development easier and more importantly maintain a consistent UX.

You could just have pre-defined CSS classes and do much of the same thing, but it will not be as elegant nor as controlled. Taking over the HTML and JS interpreters just allows them greater control while respecting the role each component plays (markup, interactivity, styling, etc).


Implementing this with WebKit would be massive overkill; I'd say it's quite unlikely it's implemented with it.


If you implemented a web-like runtime from the ground up, you're saying you would write it from scratch?

The runtime has JavaScript support, it does not have a brand new interpreter.

The runtime has CSS support, it does not have a brand new interpreter.

The runtime has HTML/XML syntax. Why would they write a brand new interpreter?


Because the XML syntax maps directly onto UI components; introducing an HTML canvas is vastly more complicated than that.

Mappping XML to a small subset of UI objects is so simple you don't really need to pull in an entire browser runtime for it.


It's not like HTML except for being XML which looks a lot like SGML.

It's significantly more limited and more specific to the task than HTML. HTML comes with a lot of baggage that makes it unsuitable for a really specific use case.


It's not like HTML except for being XML which looks a lot like SGML.

XML does not only look a lot like SGML, it is a proper subset of SGML:

XML is an application profile or restricted form of SGML, the Standard Generalized Markup Language [ISO 8879]. By construction, XML documents are conforming SGML documents.

http://www.w3.org/TR/xml11/


Unlike HTML, btw, which started out as a loose subset of SGML but has abandoned the goal of SGML compatibility in favour of conceptual simplicity.


Interesting, I didn't realize they claimed XML was an SGML subset. I thought you couldn't express XML empty tags in an SGML DTD.


Supporting full HTML would much be more processor- and memory-intensive. It also gives developers more freedom, which can negatively impact the user experience.

I don't know if I agree with the tradeoffs they've made here, but those are at least two reasons to create their own custom schema here.


I think the heavy reliance on these templates is a good clue. Apple TV's interaction model is a lot about swiping around from tappable element to tappable element. Arbitrary layouts will make this a miserable experience. Apple probably wants to establish a number of layout patterns that they believe will yield a good experience.


As others have already said, it’s XML. This comment by jonknee back in the other Apple TV thread is a bit more detailed:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10194839


Would you really want full blown hypertext markup styled with css on your apple tv?

Just imagine all of the garish designs that would pop up.

It's better to restrict what is allowed in a custom markup language so that apple has better control over how it is rendered.


I'd guess that they don't use full-blown HTML to make sure developers don't go overboard and break the UX.


No, no, it's not HTML, because everything is inside <alertTemplate>, not <html>.


zen != daydreaming


When I'm stuck in traffic, I consider that a time to submerge the ego, embrace the virtue of patience, and realize that the goal of all drivers should be for everyone to get everyone unstuck and return to normal traffic flow.

So rather than sit bumper-to-bumper, I will open a car-sized space ahead of me, and intentionally allow "line jumper" cars to enter it. Rather than alternately hitting the gas and brake, I'll just let my car roll, smoothing out the wavelike interactions in congested traffic.

If you stop thinking purely of your own self-interest, you can act to improve the overall flow of traffic, rather than just try to get yourself out of it as soon as possible. Think of it as an engineering problem. Instead of how to get 1 person home as quickly as possible, try to get 10000 cars to their destinations with the lowest median travel time, using only your ability to control one car in the flow of traffic.


"Time you enjoy wasting, was not wasted."


I agree with that line, but it feels like sometimes we are tricked into feeling like we're enjoying something, when we really are not. What matters is if afterwards, if you feel like you wasted that time.


I was about to correct you and say that was Bertrand Russell but apparently it was neither of them - http://quoteinvestigator.com/2010/06/11/time-you-enjoy/.


Interesting article. Thanks for the fact check!


I really liked the clause about no porn. If this mom wants to run her family with Victorian-era iron fist then by all means but trying to stop a 13 year old boy from getting access to porn in 2013 is laughable.


In the USA, it's illegal for a porn site to show him porn until he's 18 anyway.


And how on Earth is this rule enforced? I'm genuinely curious. Even if it's something like asking for SSN if IP addresses s from US, it would be bypassed easily by a simple proxy.


Some ask for credit cards, others it's simply a button that says "yes I'm over 18". It's not really about enforcement, it's about assigning liability.


Also laughable.


LOL.



There's some interesting comments on that(as well as the inevitable trolls)..


Yeah really, I was kinda hoping to read through some relevant posts, but it's just been taken over by a bunch of tards concentrating on his SWTOR comments.


This one made my day: "Panic set in, and it suddenly had to be WOW 2.0"


There should be a fundamental game industry mantra in there: "Don't try to beat Blizzard at their own game. You will lose."

Caveat: Unless you think you can sneak out a Diablo game before Diablo 3 comes out. (Nice one, Torchlight)


Jeff Strain formulated it like this: "the team that is best poised to deliver a successful game that is an evolution of WoW is... well, the WoW team".

http://www.guildwars.com/events/tradeshows/gc2007/gcspeech.p...

It will be interesting to see how much of his own advice he managed to follow.


That was probably the main thing that killed the game. Personally I loved the RvR aspect of WHO (the few times you actually had enough players from both sides on the same server and in the same zone to actually make a decent fight out of it). Easily the most fun I've had with any MMO game. Had they focused on that and really made that the core of their game, it could have been something great.


Wow, the comments are pretty entertaining, not much substance though.


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