> I lived in communistic country, trust me workers were exploited much more in the communism than in capitalism.

I don't trust you on that point. I would agree that countries that claim to be "communist" exploit workers far more than workers are exploited in modern mixed economies like those in most of the West, of course, but that's somewhat beside the point of the discussion. First, because no one claimed anything to which that is directly relevant, and second, because, while the modern west is often called "capitalist", it bears little resemblance in economic system to the system in the 19th century whose critics (notably, Marx) coined the term "capitalism" to refer to, differing from those systems largely by having adopted, on top of the old capitalist system, a number of reforms, many of which are straight out of the Communist Manifesto.

> The revolution of workers against the communistic rule is ultimately this what destroyed communism in the Eastern Block.

Sure, largely. That doesn't make it any less true that the exploitation of workers under capitalism was the source of Marxism and a proximate cause for the adoption of many policies that were part of the original Communist program as near-universal policies throughout the developed world by Social Democrats/Democratic Socialists, and that the same dissatisfaction was a less-proximate contributor to the "Communist" revolutions of Lenin and his ideological heirs.

> If communism was so great for workers why they were the ones who lead the revolution against it in places like Poland?

I don't recall anyone arguing that "communism was so great for workers". Arguing that capitalism being so bad for workers was one of the causes of the development and spread of Communist ideology is not equivalent to arguing that Communism, as implemented by Lenin et al., was "good for workers". It does not even require the weaker claim that Leninism was better than 19th capitalism for workers.

> Communism is much more worker unfriendly system than capitalism. So, yep, you got it opposite.

Well, except that you are the only one who is arguing about the topic of whether Communism is more worker friendly than capitalism, on either side.

What I'm saying is - contrary to your point of view - that there were workers revolutions against communism and that there weren't workers revolutions against capitalism.

I.e. a revolution of some type in Russia in 1917 would happen for sure because people were tired of monarchy. Not capitalism.

> What I'm saying is - contrary to your point of view - that there were workers revolutions against communism and that there weren't workers revolutions against capitalism.

There is probably some strained definition of "workers revolution" for which this is true, but since it doesn't contradict anything I said, I am not sure what your basis is for the claim that it is contrary to my point of view, rather than a complete non-sequitur.

And, if it wasn't workers, who exactly is that drove the revolutionary change in western economic systems that led to late 19th Century capitalism being replaced, pretty much universally in the West by the mid-20th Century, with the modern "mixed" economy which adopts a wide range of socialist elements?

>And, if it wasn't workers, who exactly is that drove the >revolutionary change in western economic systems that led to >late 19th Century capitalism being replaced, pretty much >universally in the West by the mid-20th Century, with the >modern "mixed" economy which adopts a wide range of >socialist elements?

Voters - you can even substitute "voters" with "workers" - in a democratic process (non-violent) and not workers in a revolutionary anti-capitalistic revolution.

So, it's not like they hated capitalism so much that they had to do revolutionary violent acts to overthrow the system. They modified it by voting. Evolution, progress, not a revolution.

Again, revolutions there were against communistic rule. Communism was much worse so people revolted against it and not opted for an evolutionary change.

Funny how communism propaganda has always been all about revolution, but that never happened. History shows us that people - mostly workers who were supposed to have it so good under the communistic rule - revolted against communism. Not capitalism. In capitalism they voted for a change and they got it.